Wednesday, April 9, 2008
Latest Blog Ever! Identities test day.
-Oh sorry for the very very very very late blog.
Yes we had our test on identities. Personally I liked this one. Either I worked harder or the test was easier. Perhaps both. The test was pretty straight forward from what we were taught. Now to get to the main point!
The next scribe will NOT be Roxanne .. It will be .. RICHARD!
-#Eleven, out.
Tuesday, April 8, 2008
Hi my names BOB, and here about Identities...
At first, I didnt really like identities. The whole concept of "proving" instead of "solving" bothered me and I really didnt get it or like it at first. It took a little while and alot of practice before I was able to do it.
In general I think the identities stuff was pretty great, kinda easy. The hardest part was and still kinda is solving identities "elegantly." Its pretty confusing sometimes and I can never seem to remember some trig identities right. Since this was a really short unit and we didnt cover a wide array of different stuff, it was much easier to swallow, especially with all the practises we did. The sine dance helped alot, and was great fun.
I think im fairly well prepared for tomorrow, although I'll be sure to review notes before I go to bed and remind myself that cosa != a. Always making that mistake...
Anyway, good night everybody and good luck on the test!
Monday, April 7, 2008
Intro to Exponential Functions
Well we're back from spring break and everybody is ready to do some math! Just as a reminder everybody's Flickr pictures are due on the midnight of Friday. Just post a direct link to your Flickr page onto the blog. Remember to tag it with your name, flickr, and trigonometry. For the picture do not contrive it or draw it and say that it is math. It is math but it isn't naturally occuring. The picture must exist as it is naturally. One example of a contrived shot would be a drawing of a parabola on a piece of paper. It is drawn but a natural one would be on that I had taken last year:



Okay after find some of those we went back to solving for x but x was in a different place. x was an exponent. If you look at the slides 4 and 5 x is in the exponent spot. So to solve these just try to get the same base on both sides by using the techniques used to find other forms of numbers in exponents like earlier explained. When that is complete since the bases are equal then so must the exponents. So seperately just solve for x like in basic algebra if needed. Sometimes you end up with an algebraic expression like 2x-1 as an exponent. So if the base that has that exponent needs to be changed into another base make sure to multiply the new exponent into 2x-1. Then again solve for x.
Afternoon class. We had a pre-test on identities. Like the normal procedure several minutes to complete the pre-test and then we got into groups and work as a team to solve the questions not completed earlier. After handing in the test we went over the questions. The slides for the pretest is on the second slide of April 7, 2008. The first question nobody had trouble with but we went over the second. The questions asked for the sin(Π+Θ). So first to find sine we first found the sine of Θ which was the y-coordinate, n, over the square root of m squared plus n squared. But the question asked for the sin(Π+Θ) so add that value found earlier to Π and we get a negative value which was answer a. The 3rd question was simple so we did not go over it but the trick to do is was to draw a triangle and find the lengths of the sides. Then you should notice that A and B are the same angle meaning they have the same sides. Then just use the difference identity for cosine and all shall be found well just the answer really. Okay the next question was one that we went over. First just treat this like a normal algebraic equation for a quadratic and factor it. Then we get two answers but one is rejected because it isn't in the domain specified in the question. Then the other one was accepted, which was the answer. Now onto the long answer.
The long answer question was a pretty difficult. The tricky part was actually seeing the double identity on the left side. Change the sin2x into its identity and for the cosine one there are three different identities. On the sixth slide there is only one that would give us a tan by itself and it was the third one on the slide. Everything reduces nice and it leaves with tanx. The right side is a simple identity and we get tan also on the right side. Yay we proved it so remember QED.
We went back to practicing more identity problems. the one we had to do is on the next slide. We had to solve for x. All we have to do is just notice the identity on the left side and change the sin^2 (x) into 1-cos^2(x) and then it becomes a quadratic. Just solve for x like normal. The next slide shows how to find a variable on the calculator. So all we have to do is plug the left side of the equation onto Y1 and the right side onto Y2 and find the intercepts. Make sure to change the window's max and min values into -2Π to 2Π. The intercepts are the answers.
The next few lines are just identity practice for tomorrow's test. So good luck on the test everyone and homework is exercise #20 omit questions #10,11,12. The next scribe will be Eleven. Good night everybody and don't forget the flickr pics.
Today's Slides: April 7
And these are the slides from the afternoon ...
My BOB for Identities
This was rather an intriguing unit because it made us think "outside the box" and try to be more "elegant" with our solutions. When I say elegant, I don't mean we draw a nice unicorn beside our problems. I mean that we should try to solve the identities with the least number of steps without skipping any.
I found it easier when writing everything in terms of sine and cosine. Although this might not be the best way to come at things because we want to be more elegant.
A big struggle in the unit for me was my own work ethic. Sometimes you think you are ready, but you're not... I feel as though I didn't get enough practice in proving identities. Everything else was a breeze. Well to solve my dilemna there is only one thing to do: practice makes perfect.
That is all.
Friday, April 4, 2008
BOB For Identities
So Identities. I was scared of this unit, because I was talking to some people that took this class and they kept telling me that it was confusing and hard and all that jazz, so I freaked out. But it's actually not that bad. I liked this unit, even though it did get confusing in some areas.
Proving identities sometimes took such a long time. I asked myself so many times whether it WAS the same because it took so long. It's like a puzzle, or wait. I remember Justus saying in class, 'this is like a maze', or something like that.
What I need to improve on is applying identities. Sometimes I don't see it, and even though I still get the answer in the end, it doesn't look as 'elegant' as it could be. But I guess that just has to do with more practice. I just need to encourage myself to try and not just give up when I see something that looks complicated. The whole point is to experiment and that's what I need to do.
So uhm, yes. I guess that is it. Test on Monday. Goodluck to all. =)
Thursday, March 27, 2008
The Bourne.. ~ er ~ BOB Identity
At times I found proving identities hard because well, like a normal case, you'd have to collect evidence to prove the identitie is real. Very rarely is the identity false because you'd algebraically massage it until it all falls into place like a puzzle, but a sudoku puzzle to be exact, because you're not always going to make a sudoku puzzle perfect from the start. You play around with it here and there. I found playing around with the identities a bit tedious, but it had to be done. It's just that I don't notice certain identities at first that would lead to the final answer.
This was a good unit in my say, theres were just a few frustration points where I had to get over the hump so yeah. I don't and do look forward to the test at the same time. So yeah.
~Rence OUT!
JabbaMatheez - The Touch Up.


Continuing to our next slide, we continue with our regular scheduled programming.
In this slide we are given sinα = 4/5 and cos β = -5 / 13 where cosα <> 0. So to find those, we know that sinβ and cosα are in quadrant 2 using Pythagoras's theorem & a picture of the unit square like so.
5² - 4² = 3² (25 - 16 = 9 --> √9 = 3) and 13² - 5² = 12 ² (169 - 25 = 144 --> √144 = 12)
It then asks us to find what Tan(α - β) is so we basically combine Sin(α - β) /Cos(α - β)
GREAT! So now we have cosα = -3/5 and sinβ = 12 / 13. So Now we can get Tan(α - β) .
I know it's homework, but I'll post up my answer so that others can compare. Correct me if I'm wrong PLEASE!
Sin(α - β) = SinαCosβ - CosαSinβ. Cos(α - β) = CosαCosβ + SinαSinβ.
Then, set it up like this. SinαCosβ - CosαSinβ/CosαCosβ + SinαSinβ.
Replace them. (4/5)(-5/13) - (-3/5)(12/13) / (-3/5)(-5/13) + (4/5)(12/13) --> (-20/65) - (36/65) / (15/65) + (48/65) --> (-56/65) / (63/65)
*MULTIPLY BY THE RECIPROCAL* (-56/65) * (65/63)
* 65's REDUCE* -56 / 63. So I got an answer of Tan(α - β) = -56 / 63
That's all for today folks! Remember, we start a new unit tomorrow!!
P.S. HEY fellow JabbaMatheez! We still have our PICTURES due after the break so don't forget that while you're all having fun and having adventures on SPRING BREAK '08!
Oh wait, there's still the masking of the next Scribe!
I will pass the Jabba Scribe on to... FRANCIS!!
~Rence OUT!
Wednesday, March 26, 2008
BOB for Identities
Out of all the units, I like this the best for some reason. That doesn't mean I didn't struggle with it though. The first time I saw those proof questions was not pretty. It didn't help that I couldn't remember the formulas or derive them either. I always thought I'd never be able to solve those kinds of questions. But with practice and finally figuring out how to derive, I slowly started getting the answers right. I also found that what works for solving identities is just experimenting at first when you don't see the answer yet. With that said, I just have to work on solving these questions faster because there's only an hour or so to do a test and to find the clever idea in solving them.
Now what I really liked in this unit was the Sine dance. At first I was like "How's this going to help me?" but it did. The sine and cose formula will never leave my mind and I'll always remember it when I need it. That's why I find that I'm really confident when doing the sum and difference questions.
Yeah so the test is on Friday. Just have to get it over with and then it'll be Spring break!
Trigonometric Identities: Double Identites
Link to the slides post.
Link to the slides page.
Hey guys, its Paul here posting my scribe for our class on Double Identities on Tuesday (just in time amirite?).
So we started off the class with a review of the previous class on slide 2. The basic concept here is that the distance between Q and P is equal to cos(a-b).
In slide 3, we used this idea to find the Sum Identity with Even and Odd functions since we already have the Difference Identity.
Sum Identity: cos(a+b) = cosacosb - sinasinb
Difference Identity: cos(a-b) = cosacosb + sinasinb
Cosine is an even function, sine and tangent are odd.
We use the same concept for finding the Sum and Difference identities of the distance between R and Q on slides 4 and 5.
Then we take a break from our "regularly scheduled programming" (I wonder if that counts as one of Mr.K's catchphrases that we should put on the board) with a short and simple quiz on slides 7, 8 and 9.
Slide 7: Simplify the expressions. Pretty self explanatory, use identities to find the simplest expression.
Slide 8: Prove the identities. Again, stuff we've done before.
Slide 9: Find the exact value of sin(5pi/12). This one took a little more work, but it was actually easy because the values a = pi/6 and b = pi/4 were given to us. As Mr.K explained, on tests we will simply be given a value to find with a formula, which means we'll have to find a and b on our own. Since they're given to us, we can just plug the values into the formula and get our answer.
As we return to our regularly scheduled programming on slide 10, we are given and identity to prove. The Sum Identity for tangent, to be precise.
The solution is pretty long and looks complicated but it basically follows these steps:
tan(a+b) = sin(a+b)/cos(a+b)
And since we already know what sin(a+b) and cos(a+b) equal to, we get a really long equation (one I won't bother to type since its right there in the slides). Once you have your really long equation, most of it simplifies or reduces to the proper solution of tana+tanb/1-tanatanb.
And since Math is the science of patterns, you'll probably know what we're going to do next. Next, we find the Difference Identity of tan (tan(a-b)) since we have the Sum Identity. We do this on Slide 11 in an equally long but rewarding process.
In summary:
tan(a+b) = tana+tanb/1-tanatanb
tan(a-b) = tana-tanb/1+tanatanb
On Slides 12 and 13 we learn about Double Angle Identities (which is different from a double identity). Here we apply some old stuff to a new problem, and turn something like:
sin(2theta)
Into:
sin(theta + theta)
Which would look more familiar as say... sin(a+b)?
Since its exact same thing (so long as b = a), we can rewrite sin(2theta) as:
(sintheta)(costheta) + (costheta)(sintheta)
And then simplify it so it looks like
2sintheta(costheta)
We then apply this concept to find the Double Angle Identities of cos and tan.
sin(2theta) = 2sintheta(costheta)
cos(2theta) = cos^2(theta) - sin^2(theta), 1-2sin^2(theta), 2cos^2(theta) -1
tan(2theta) = 2tantheta/1-tan^2(theta)
And that basically sums up what we did that day in class.
Now I'd like to add a small note to the sine dance to make provisions for the tan identities, which is obviously a pain to figure out via sin(a+b) and cos(a+b). Therefore, I propose a tan dance to help us remember the tan identities.
Since this is all in terms of tangent, we do the dance in variable order, something like this:
Alpha, Beta, Divide, 1, Bust-a-move, Alphabeta
or in stick man form...

Im just putting it out there. Seems easier than solving sin(a+b)/cos(a+b) every time you want to do a tan identity to me.
And that concludes my painfully brief scribe post about Double Identities. Hope you guys get a good nights sleep and enjoy our last day before SPRING BREAK.
Yeah man.
Trignometry Identities for March 26.
Today wasn't very exciting, and you all know I'm not talking about the talent show, now that was INSANE. Yeah it was pretty sweet, but you know what else is sweet? CANDY! Okay, but anyways. Today in class we had a substitute teacher. The only thing we did in class was a worksheet entitled "Trig Identities Worksheet 3.4" and as you might have guessed it's about solving trigonometry identities. This worksheet was really quite helpful in understanding some identities. It Cleared some of my thoughts at least. In total there were 16 questions on this worksheet, and some questions were simple and others gave you the "where do I start?!" question. After all, this worksheet did take the whole class and was plenty of time to finish some of those tough ones. If you're not done the worksheet, it was for homework, and I'm sure that most of us had to bring it home. It was really helpful and good luck on the pre-test tomarrow.
Like Jeff out of the Coffin! I'm Out!
-Francis
IDENTITIES: "Hi, my name is Bob"
As usual, I'm having problems. Not with finding the identities per se, but I have a problem with FINDING the identities. I'm [math] exercising like crazy and trying to keep up with everyone...and not to mention Mr. K. He could practically save lives if they depended on him doing identities. But me...I take forever!! FOREVER! And it's frustrating because when I do my BOB's I'm always panicking because I feel behind. And I'm not sure if it's my work ethic...but I'm just not absorbing information fast enough...and it's the same thing before any test I've had this semester. I have to find a way to fix it. Because I know I failed miserably on the last test... my own fault. I accept that. But this post is getting rather depressing now and very unproductive, and I admit, a bit unprofessional. But I think that's the only issue I have with this unit. I don't always figure out which side of the identity to "massage" and I just don't see it. It's nothing a little practice couldn't fix.
BOB for identities
What I think about this unit is that it's simple and easy as long as you UNDERSTAND IT. Which is what Mr. K has done. Explained each formula. It takes some thinking, but the steps are similar is how I see it. I'm still unsure of some of the things, like when you know what Cosa and SinB I forget how to find CosB and Sina. But I'm actually BOB'ing before I'm doing my exercises so It may be to early to dicuss what I'm having difficulty on. It wouldn't hurt to have one more workshop. This unit was very fun.
Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Trigonometric Identities Practice
http://library.thinkquest.org/20991/alg2/trigi.html#Quiz
http://www.syvum.com/cgi/online/serve.cgi/math/trigo/trig2.tdf?0
http://www.quia.com/cc/448321.html
http://www.epcc.edu/Student/Tutorial/Mathcenter/Exams/trigquizzes/quiz14/QUIZ14.htm
http://www.libraryofmath.com/trigonometric-identities-quiz.html
http://www.batesville.k12.in.us/physics/CalcNet/Trig_Review/Trig_Review.html
http://college.hmco.com/cgi-bin/SaCGI.cgi/ace1app.cgi?FNC=AcePresent__Apresent_html___mathematics_larson_algebra_trig_6e_07-02
BOB Version 3: Trigonometric Identities
As of now, I have to go over the slides for the proofs of sum and differences because I haven't yet looked at them! I'm not too comfortable with questions where the questions tell what alpha and beta are, then we would have to draw a circle to find out quadrants they're in, then use the dancing equations to determine where a point is in which quadrant--because right now I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the 'setting up' part where we have to draw the circle to see what angle alpha, beta, a, or b are in. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then refer to March 20's slide #4 and 5, please and thank you! But now, I've just recently had a moment of clarity and doing those kinds of questions make sense to me.
Also, one of the questions in our homework that was assigned, EXERCISE 16: SUM AND DIFFERENCE IDENTITIES I, #9, it tells us to graph sin (t + 3pi/2) = -cos t, in which I have no idea how to graph that. And there maybe more questions that I'm not comfortable in doing because I haven't looked at them yet.
The test on trig. identities is set for Friday, and I'm sure I can prepare myself before that day. So 'til then, may we all grok in fullness!
P.S. Is it just me or did Mr.K not posted up today's slides? I was planning on using those slides to study off of because I was going to look over those slides thinking it would be more convenient for me to study off of since I am on the computer now typing up my blog post.
Identities and BOB
Leaning with Wiggles! I'm out!
-Francis
BOB: Identities
Overall I believe this unit was easy compared to the previous unit. However, I still think it's not THAT easy because of all of the algebra we have to do. Like any other unit, there are parts where I think are easier than others. In the beginning of the unit, I thought that this unit would be fairly easy because the questions were pretty much straight forward. As we moved forward into the unit it became a bit confusing starting with the sum and difference identities. I still have a bit of trouble because I always have to take a minute to recall the different equations to use. In today's class we learned the final part of the unit, double angle identities which I found pretty straight foward.
I think my biggest problems I have to fix will be not trying to skip any steps because once I start doing that, I end up messing up the whole problem. I also need to look over my work to check if my algebra is correct as well as finding patterns quicker because I tend to waste time trying to figure out certain things.
With that said, I hope everyone does well on the test and don't forget the sine dance! LoL Goodluck everyone! Bye!
Finding the Identity of BOB!!!
BOB the Blogger is Back! (Identities Unit)
So to begin I'd like to say that this unit was easily the most up and down one for me. I'll explain what that means exactly right now. With most of the other units, it was either steadily easy, or steadily difficult. However, with the identities unit, I found that it was all over the place. Some of it I got extremely quickly, and other parts of it I struggled profoundly with.
The easiest parts I think, involved the use of the sum and difference identities. Substituting the values of sine or cosine, or substituting the identity itself seemed relatively straightforward to me.
One of the more difficult parts, involved solving identities in general, as I'd usually get stuck in the paralyzed frozen mode Mr. K was talking about because I couldnt see the end of the problem, and thus, didnt want to advance into an uncertainty. I am working on forcing myself to continue and try new things though to get rid of that bad habit :P
One of the things I found most helpfull was the sine dance. Expect to see me doing it during the test :D
Well I think thats all, so Ciao!